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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus
I am not moral, and I am alive. Hitler was not moral, and he was alive. Genghis Khan was not moral and he was alive. Morality is not a condition for life. Things like oxygen are conditions for life. This is a flawed premise.
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The moral is that which preserves and enhances your life qua man.
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This premise is false. Being in close proximity to people does not entail any moral action. One could just as easily associate with people to go whoring and drinking. I'll stick with Sartre, "Hell is other people."
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I said, that being with other moral men, is moral. That is to say it enhances your life qua man (through the philosophical, scientific, emotional, and economic advances that come via society). I never claimed that it makes you act moral, only that itself is moral.
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Your conclusion can't hold up because its premises are false.
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So then you must admit, everything you say "can't hold up".
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No, man does not have to be free at all to live. Witness the grinding slavery of the American South and the ancient world. Life is a very basic criteria; the cells of the human body need no spiritual or moral nourishment. The human body needs calories, oxygen, and certain minerals to continue.
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Not just to live, but to live as a man. A being free to use his own reason to pursue his own happiness. The life of a slave is not worth living, as it destroys all of your values and makes a
human life impossible.