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Originally Posted by barrowaj
How can you say that? What about Germany, the Nordic countries, France, etc. Those countries are not authoritarian. I'm not talking about socialism where there is no free enterprise. I'm talking about socialist in terms of government social programs and direction of the economy. In fact, I wouldn't advocate socialism in terms of the ways that its been practiced before for America in any way. I'm a socialist in terms that I think that its an evolutionary idea that technology will eventually help us progress toward. Socialism is not something that can be forced on people, and its not something that is defined in absolute terms.
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They are mixed economies. Oh and socialism is something that can be forced on people. This is evident by the fact that it is being
forced upone me.
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I hold that the declining growth rate of the US is characteristic of a developed economy. When a country is industrializing and allocating new resources, its easy to grow, but after it has reached maximal allocation, its much more difficult.
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You hold that, aye? Well prove it.
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However, I would attribute the lower infant mortality in Sweden and longer life expectancy only partially to lifestyle changes, but also due to better access to preventative care. It is also important to consider that we pay 4x as much for our healthcare as the European states, so it better be better!
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Everyone has private healthcare providers to some extent except for people on the dole. The cost for socialized medicine, even though it is only for the poor and elderly, per capita, costs just as much as private medicine per capita. So tell me now, which is more costly. You must also remember the effect of lawsuits on doctors insurence costs, which in turn, drastically rise prices. The best thing to do is to limit lawsuit rewards, excepting gross negligence, and get rid of welfare.
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/326
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So, in conclusion, we can say that US healthcare provides better outcomes for those that get cancer, but it doesn't do a good job at helping keep people healthy.
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If you get a major afliction, you have a significantly better chance of survival in the United States, then you do in the "best" of countries with total socialized healthcare.
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In conclusion, I wouldn't advocate completely socialized medicine in the US, but perhaps we can do something to give people better access to preventative care.
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You forget that what you advocate is violence against those who do not want to participate in your social experiment.