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Originally Posted by JBodnar39
[F-15 is also a good one. Why it lost against Su-30MKI at that practice in India could depend on (and I think that's the reason) politic games. The US military wanted to suggest to the gouvernment to buy more F-22s. 
From what I have read, the Su-30's did come out on top, but not by any great margin and there were some mitigating factors that may have helped them:
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U can look at the Ranges of AMRAAM and R77 to see who will hit first.
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2. The F-15's that were deployed were not our top of the line versions - they did not have the new AESA radar fitted on many of the C's.
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neither were the SU30's presented top of the line. they were just SU30K's the standard russian export model. and not even MK /MKI.
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3. The US pilots were straight off of the line - average (for American) fighter pilots)
4. The India pilots were instructors and the absolute best that they had.
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From what i have read in indian newspapers the indian pilots were a mix of age and experience. what makes u think they were top of the line. Why will india risk showing its top of the line pilots to US .
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5. Engagments were purposefully constructed where the F-15's had to face a superior number of Su-30's in every engagment (this was at the request of the US I believe.
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It was not simply SU30 vs F15. there were other planes involved including Mig21's.
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So lets not get all hyped up about the SU-30's performance v the F-15. At best it is an equal to the F-15 in air to air (possibly a bit more manueverable in a dogfight but the F-15C's with the AESA radar are better in BVR roles). An the F-15E is a better strike platform than the Su-30 period
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i dont see F15 and Su30 as much different from each other in A2A performance either.
Of course AESA gives you an added advantage on F15 but only provided the AESA is better in range than the BARs on MKi and also compensates for the lesser RCS of SU30 wrt F15. ( if i m right SU30 has a slightly smaller RCS) or else it wont provide too much of an advantage.
Furthermore can someone please clarify on the ranges of R77(indian versions) and the AMRAAM(currently in service in US) . Some open source Claim R77 to be longer ranged. If thats the case it might very well be able to compensate in BVR Mode.