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Originally Posted by Defcon 6
The Arsenal ship was able to be designed for 69+ crew. It's a question of automated systems. My figure is dead on accurate.
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The Arsenal ship could get by with a small crew because it was basically a floating VLS freighter. It had minimal sensors and no guns. It took all of its queueing and fire control from other vessels. Therefore, it only needed enough crew to drive & maintain the boat.
If I read it right, your ship still uses significant DD(X) compoents (MFR and associated combat systems).
It has a rough superset of the armament, sensors and combat systems of DD(X), and will have a larger, nuclear propulsion system.
Plus the 1950s-era guns & turret systems are far more manpower-intensive than modern turrets. A triple 16" Iowa turret had a minimum crew of, what, 77 sailors?
Optimistically, a single mount might require a third of them, and you have three turrets, so figure 70-odd sailors just for the 16" gun turrets.
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Originally Posted by Defcon 6
Actually it wouldn't. That 396 million dollars is construction costs. Constrution costs refers to just the ship, armor ect. It does not include the E-Warfare systems and weapons. With weapons I gave this estimate $986.756 Million.
This is because my ship is conventional. It isn't a DD(X) spin-off. It is simply designed to use weapons and e-warfare systems, everything else is conventional. Automation systems aren't counted against ship price because they eliminate sailors who receive paychecks. Theres a very specific way of figuring costs here.
Plus it's made to be cheap. Scrap metal anyone?
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$986 billion is still less than a Burke, which has been in full-rate production (amortized development costs) for years now, is far smaller, with a smaller weapons suite.
Also, even at full-rate, DD(X)s are still supposed to cost in the $3 billion range.
IMHO, scrap metal won't help drive down the price much. Most of the cost is tied up in amortized development, the weapons systems and C4ISR.
Plus, it's also nuclear.
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Originally Posted by Defcon 6
As I said before, the Queen Mary 2 is a 150,000 ton cruise liner and it costs $852 million.
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Yes, but the Queen Mary 2 doesn't have 16" guns, SPY-3/MFR, PVLS, or armor.
Oh, and it isn't nuclear-powered.
