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Old 08-07-2005, 21:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
bonehead
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Originally Posted by Bluesman
It doesn't 'prove' any such thing. You SUSPECT there's something more going on, but that's a different thing from PROOF, and here's what I suspect: it's ALL about supply and demand., and continuing on with your post...



The bottom line is, you're slinging mud and slandering the president without the slightest bit of fact to back up your ridiculous assertion. HOW is he helping his oil baron buddies, and who might they be? WHY would he do so, when he's being scourged everyday by know-nothings like yourself that have no understanding of how markets work, how a politician calculates risk/benefit or how corporations assert their interests to the government.



Of COURSE you don't hear Texaco execs whining about the cost of oil; that's not up to them. But increasing exploration/production IS up to them. Thanks to the Democrats, that avenue is becoming more difficult and less profitable to pursue, and THAT is exactly why we're in the place we're in now, and NOT because this president is favoring any greedy oil barons.

But I'll give you this much: you've accurately described how a corporation works when faced with increased costs (pass on the increase to the consumer), though you've absolutely failed to grasp why that must be so, and for this reason I am assuming you've never run a business yourself.

As for putting more of 'our' resources into exploring alternative energy sources, unless the collective noun you've used means that you're an investor of your own money in risky ventures that won't make a profit for years (if ever), I assume you mean public funds. And whatever progress has been made along those lines you may thank this president for, and I'd like to remind you we could have had an energy bill two years ago, but for the Democrats' opposition, and a better energy bill now, but for the very same reason.

Your dogmatic distrust of this president and the oil industry has made you see demons that aren't there, and prevented you from identifying the enemies of what you claim to want.

The Democrats are counting on people like you - ill-informed, reflexively anti-business, and hopelessly, pathologically unable to grasp that the only reason you are able to enjoy the lifestyle that you lead is because this country is founded on a more-or-less capitalist model.
Oil companies are raking in record profits for the last three years in a row and are getting tax breaks so they can keep more of their profits. This is due to the current administrations policies. You may not be able to (or want to) see the writing on the wall, but I know when I am getting fleeced. Why should Bush do so? You know as well as anyone. The old trickle down theory. Give to the rich so the rich can generously make jobs for the poor. Secondly, It is human nature to want to see your friends and collegues do well, and assist them if need be. Bluesman. Our opinoins differ, but you do not have a clue as to what I know, (or anyone else knows) on certain subjects. You can name call all you want, but I doubt you are impressing anyone, and I know you are not intimidating me.

You conceded something to me so I will return the favor. Yes I do have a pessimistic view of big businness. I see the corruption from absolute power and greed and I think it should be checked as I see that there are some things that are more important money. I do grasp the importance of (more or less) capitalistic model, and I favor it. However, I do not approve of the stricly capitalistic model, nor do I want the communism model.

Maybe your unabashed love for Bush has blinded you from his shortcomings. Bush is not a savior. He is a politician.

If you think the democrats are counting on me, you have another thing coming. I had to vote for the LESSER of the two evils in the last two elections, (EEK.GASP) and that was Bush. I cared enough to vote and as an American citizen, I have a right to criticize the leader of my country, whomever it may be.
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